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Astral Jesus
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Posted - 2014.08.12 10:28:00 -
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Damn it, guys. I've been training up for an Ishtar since I got this game just on account of it being a dedicated drone boat, and I think that's a cool idea. I don't know enough about game mechanics to comment on this super meaningfully, but I will say this: at least 90% of the suggested nerfs in this thread are terrible, terrible ideas on account of one thing: the Ishtar is unique.
It's one of the last unique ships in the game. That's the main reason I chose it. Most of the nerfs I've seen people calling for would flat out kill the Ishtar. That'd be a goddamn shame. I've yet to be on the receiving (or giving) end of the Ishtar's bullshit so by all means feel free to ignore me, but please think about the terrible things you suggest CCP do to my sweet drone goddess before you say them.
I read a comment somewhere ITT lamenting the fact that this quest for "balance" will basically lead to each ship just being a different skin for __ DPS @ __ km, and I couldn't agree more. Do something with the Ishtar, for the love of God, but by all means please do it gradually with small tweaks. Honestly... a lot of the suggested balance nerfs ITT looks like an equally terrible reverse power creep, where every ship just becomes bland and samey instead of each ship becoming uniquely overpowered. |
Astral Jesus
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Posted - 2014.08.12 10:40:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:It is not unique. It is just a pocket dominix that can do all that the dominix can offensive wise. while all other hacs are far less powerful damage projection or dps wise than their racial battleships.
Ishtar is simply overpowered because 125m drone bay was created at a time where drone boats had only half their damage from drone bayd, sicne no drone damage mods meant usign only drones was not enough.
It's a cruiser that can use sentry drones and it's not unique? It's a dedicated drone cruiser and it's not unique? It's pretty goddamn unique. There is no cruiser like it. If you could tone down how OP it was while maintaining its fairly unique playstyle that'd be great. The only suggestion I really liked the sound of ITT was making the Ishtar stay a short distance from the sentries for them to remain functional.
But it is unique. That's the source of all it's problems. It's too unique, if anything. |
Astral Jesus
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Posted - 2014.08.13 08:45:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:The constant tweaking of ships etc to make them all pretty much equal should be carried to its logical conclusion by CCP.
One ship type of each class, no ship allowed to have even a slight inbuilt advantage over another, just different skins so folk can feel that their ship is 'different' to the others.
Further to this, each ship class should only be allowed to fight ships of the same class in equal number fights.
Finally, Eve Online should be renamed as - Vanilla Online.
Seriously. This seems to be where things are headed. It's sad. |
Astral Jesus
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Posted - 2014.08.13 14:01:00 -
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TrouserDeagle wrote:power creep is done because people cry loads about nerfs, even though buffing 1 thing is basically the same as nerfing everything other than that thing. if you disagree, you're terrible.
And nerfing one thing is basically the same as buffing everything else against that one thing... what's your point? Nerfs lead to power creep just as easily as buffs do, it's just the direction of the creep that changes. If you disagree, you're even more terrible.
Power creep is an inevitable result of adding variety to a game. The only way to avoid power creep is to achieve relative balance and then not implement anything new or unique ever again. Which is an even faster way to kill EVE than accepting power creep as an inevitability of change, and trying to manage it accordingly.
The only difference between nerfing and buffing is the number of people you **** off when you get it wrong.
**** it yo, add a ship that has +10% per level damage against Ishtars. IDGAF anymore. |
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